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How does a sheep dog herd?

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  • Shay-Shay says:

    just plain chases them. sheep are scardy cats.

  • pointmissed says:

    Basically, it follows the commands (issued by one-word commands or whistles) of the shepherd. It can be used to gather sheep which are allowed to roam in the open outside of the fence and it herds them back into the pasture. Sheep are allowed to roam outside of the pasture sometimes so the sheepdog and shepherd go to gather them.

    They also compete in trials which are like competitions, in which they herd some sheep into a small pen.

    They just chase the sheep, no biting allowed! Sheep are naturally scared of the dogs because they look like wolves so the dog can chase them.

  • Typically sheep dogs run around the sheep while barking and growling at the sheep in order to scare them and keep them in a closed and controlled form. They can be used to make the herd move as well by command of the shepherd.

    I’m not sure about the goat thing.

  • Alexis says:

    sheepdogs make the sheep sense danger so they flee. goats can work but sheepdogs could get hurt.. sheep dogs r good dogs..take ggod care and love them tender…i have four and they rock! enjoy and remeber sheeps sense the danger..good theorie though..

  • iScream says:

    Sheep Dogs herd animals by chasing them around until they reach to the barn.

  • judifedway says:

    Sheep herding if done correctly is boring. The dog needs to stay far enough behind to keep them following the shepherd. No running, no scaring.

    Herding dogs are used on goats, ducks and cattle.

  • Generally a dog will either block and stare down the sheep, or nip at it’s heels. Generally heelers (nipping breeds) are more common with cattle herding dogs.

    Yes dogs can herd goats, but generally you don’t start them out with goats. Goats can be more difficult than sheep. Also you be better with a larger breed like an Australian cattle dog rather than a corgi. It’s not uncommon for herding dogs to try and herd anything kids, geese… My grandmother had an Australian Shepherd that got very upset if we got to far apart when hiking. He’d bark at the slow ones, and then run ahead and try to block the front runners.

  • bluegirl says:

    We use Kelpies to muster both sheep and goats very successfully. Our dogs follow both verbal and hand signals that my husband has taught them. They are usually very obedient when they are working. Our dogs don’t bite our sheep, they are trained not to. A dog that bites sheep will not be trusted and is unsuitable. We care about our sheep too! You will find that out in the paddock that they do just round them up and bring them in, with one of us on a bike behind.

    The dogs perform exactly the same role with the goats.

    You need to find a good breeder of working dogs with proven parents, and then take the time to train them. Don’t spoil them too much or they wont work, but always reward for a good job.

    Have fun!!

  • Different breeds use different techniques. Border Collies will stare at the sheep – using something known as “the strong eye” and stay in front of the sheep to keep them in a group and moving in a desired direction. Australian Shepherds and Kelpies for example, use a moderate or “loose eye” and tend to lead sometimes and follow other times.

    Other breeds such as Heelers, and Corgis run around or behind the flock and bark to move the sheep and keep them grouped. I have watched Corgis herd, and they run back and forth in an arch behind the sheep, keeping them together and moving them toward a pen.

    Nipping at heels is generally discouraged with sheep because of the chance for injury. The dogs will sometimes snap near the sheep but are trained not to actually bite them.

    Yes, herding dogs sometimes herd goats as well.

    For a better idea of what goes on, take a look at the Meeker CO Sheepdog Trials

    and the AKC page about Herding Trials

  • SC says:

    Sheep dogs herd sheep by looking intimidating and scary. Sheep and other prey animals naturally don’t really trust predators (animals that have both eyes in the front of their heads, not the sides). The herding dog takes advantage of this. A dog should only use the amount of force necessary to do his job. Loose eyed dogs (basically everything except border collies and kelpies) use their body movement to make the sheep move. Strong eye dogs like Border collies use their stare to intimidate the sheep and make it move. A sheep cannot stand still if the dog keeps walking into the sheep’s space – it’s instinctively going to move away from the dog. It is NEVER, NEVER, NEVER about chasing. It is about quiet controlled movement of the stock. As someone said earlier – if it’s done right, it should be very boring. Generally, with sheep, no biting is necessary other than the occasional uncooperative ram. Before the advent of modern chemicals to get rid of flies, a cut on a sheep could spell that sheep’s death due to fly strike. So dogs who were inclined to bite sheep were put down (because the economy didn’t allow shepherds to have dogs who could not work and flock owners would not have a dog around that essentially killed the sheep). This is no longer the case but there is a strong disincentive for dogs to bite. On trial fields they will be immediately excused. The only stock where it’s okay to bite is cattle where you’re looking for either a nose bite to turn the animal or a low heel bite to move the cow along.
    The job consists of making the flock do whatever the flock owner needs to be done. It may be taking them to a new field to graze. It may be gathering them up and running them through a sort or loading them in a trailer. Any job the shepherd needs done is made easier by the dog.
    The gathering up and controlling of the livestock is instinctive in breeds bred for this but has been bred out of many dogs due to breeding for other things (like a fluffy coat or a pointy nose) which have nothing to do with work.
    Sheep dogs is a misnomer. While some dogs are better on sheep than other stock, you can use ‘sheepdogs’ on any livestock other than horses (who aim when they kick). Typically you see them working cattle, sheep, goats, geese and ducks but you can also occasionally see them employed working chickens, turkey, and pigs. Dogs who are very pushy and strong on sheep can often be started well on goats who will move off a dog but not run and crash into things.

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